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Democracy is way too far to come to Sudan


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I am not pessimistic but I doubt if democracy will reach South Sudan. I have participated in most of discussion forums but the tendency we all have won't allow a genuine democracy to come to our land. The fact of the matter is, we are a mixed groups in one group: this group has it who have knowledge about a true democracy because they have studied and learned its principles, on the other hand, there is a group which only knows the word democracy but they have no idea what the democracy is all about. Is this not contradictory on the side of the latter? And this is the portion that assumes to know  democracy and how it should be brought to South Sudan.


I need your views concerning my personal observation


 


 



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    Dear Brother


Wonderful Argument, but the real issue is are we ready to hold people accountable for whatever mistake they commit?. unti we do so, there will no well adjust democarcy that fit perfectly to our nation and head it to right direction.



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Garang Aher,


This is a good topic for discussion, I will give my perspective on the possibility of having democracy in southern Sudan. Kind of busy at the moment.


Kuot Kuot.



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Hi brother kuat,

Your view point to this crucial topic is indeed very good but it is hard for us to hold those guys accountable for whatever mess they have done to our beloved nation particularly South sudan. The only way we can make sure that this thing come effect is to preach about a genuine democracy in our nation and asked our prominent leaders to transform themseves from their past deeds within the last two decades of civil war.

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Politicians want strong and healthy population as source of taxes to maintain their facilities and infrastructures. The healthy population is what leads or causes the administration  or leadership. The power of the society or community must be made a lot stronger than that of individuals or individual if we want tranquillity and peace to prevail in our community/communities.


Most politicians who think educated and wealthy persons are bad, are digging their own political graves. You can't be a leader unless you have resources and the resources are the people. Begin to like and love your people and you be will be a successful  and never-forgotten leader in the history. Let politicians not view learnt and wealthy as threat to their positions but they should look at them as very important instrument of maintaining the system. 


The power of the leader/politician is that of the community at large. But most us in an isolated part of the world view it in a contrary way.


 



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      Wonderful and very strong point, but if we apply the same logic to our political environment you will never find any body with the mentioned traits and believes (politician).


Just like you Dear brother, i believe that true leadership comes from working for the source that put in power and that will lead us to the very the same argument, through out our political history, has any one of them done anything for us( the normal folks)? and if not how come we are still backing the same people who never nor will ever do anything for us?.


the solution is (according to my point of veiw) we need to educate our people that the power rest in them not in the hands of politicians, and that they work for us not the opposite, and if they abuse the power we give them, we can always take it back, also we need to send a very clear massage to all so called politician that the political climate is changing and  shifting of center of the power has already begun and if they want to survive it (which i doubt) than beter start paying their debts before it's too late. 



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Folks,


I am neither a political theorist nor a prophet of "doom" but I must say that chances of having democracy in Sudan or Southern Sudan for that matter are nile. In 2004, people in all parts of Sudan are still speaking in whispers, let alone questioning some obvious blunders, can such an environment tolerate democracy to flourish? The answer might lie on how each one of Southern Sudanese defines democracy, however, I personally see no conducieve ground for democracy.


Besides the apparent dictatorial attitude among our leaders in Sudan, democracy will not be realized so soon in that vast Africa country owing to massive illiteracy. Unless public is politically sensitized, nothing will happen, leaders will continue fooling and manipulating them, they will continue setting them against each other for their selfish ends. The whole situation will depend on how fast the public is educated, something which will require many years to accomplish.


Youths may however play a vital role in bringing about a rapid change in political climate of Southern Sudan. But that again depends on many other factors including eradication of tribalism and stuff like that. So fellows we have hell ahead of us. Take care.


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Dear folks,


Based upon all these logical arguments, I think we are wasting our time talking about democracy which has no room in South Sudan.


We are playing with our words and the whole issue about democracy is not a right system African continent is ready to take.


Let's take a different route guys.


I think we should leave democracy for West. It is a western system so far.


"Democracy is about humanity." Alexis de Tocqueville


"Democracy is not the best system but no better system than a democracy." The former prime minister of Great Britain, Winston Churchill.



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       Brother Aher


i wouldn't call it waste of time, because i think brain storming will make a good name, and you may be right if we were just making all these arguments to create a personality that we do not posses and that isn't possible to a certain degree also. What i see brother is a great generation who have learnt from the past and is trying to create a better tomorow, and what i sense is huge crowd of leaders that contains Moses of our time who will lead this nation to the promise land, and do not get me wrong iam not saying that it will be easy, all what iam trying to convey is if we have the determination and the will to make sacrifices than we will cross the finish line. 


Regarding what you mentioned about how  we should leave democarcy to the west, i will have to diagree because if we look into histort, it is clear that the west had their dark days as well, but through hard work and endless commitment they managed to become what they are today so why is it impossible for our nation to accomplish the same thing?


I know that there is a lot to be done and it may take for ever but giving up is not the answer because there is no future in doing so. Trust me when i say (we can get it done), let us just history as a judge, back in the early 80s we were 4th class citizens, but today we are very important to the level Mohamed Osman El mergani and the rest of NDA canceled their meetings not twice but three time becauase the same people who were classified as 4th class citizen didn't attend the meeting!


all of that was the fruit of our struggle in SPLM/SPLA, and that is a legimate proof to my point that if we work hard enogh, we can get it done. Let's just start from now by educating our people and hoding these politician accountable becauase that is the key, ACCOUNTABILITY.


Trust me, the future is determine by what we do today and based on what i know, it is bright let's just keep our eyes on the price.


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Kuat Garang,


That is a great argument, you have underscored the truth. Despite all these huddles, we will not give up. Giving up has never been an answer in the world of politics, people must always strive for change. As you have put it, we surely need to attain our full independent from Arab domination first, but we must not forget that whatever freedom that will accrue from our stuggle must have a safe environment in the south, esle, it will be like removing "pot" from one fire and put it in another. Yes there is a need to give priority to the struggle but let keep on reminding our leaders that we will not give them rest unless the change at the same pace as that through which the freedom is being attended. Regards.


Kuot Kuot.



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Kuot and Kuat,


What if, on the other hand, the public doesn't understand the importance of democracy?


Would be it be possible to bring a true democracy to African continent, where the vasty majority has no education and other opportunities? 


I know democracy is the fair system, however, the environment must be conducive and friendly for a democracy to flourish. Educating the public is the key to give democracy a new vitality in our continent. Democracy will automatically appear in African continent if the educational opportunities are within the reach of every African. Getting the entire community enlightened is the gateway to a fair system.


"American exceptionalism. He said, "America is gifted with super ability by God to export democracy to the rest of the world."  By Thomas Paine.


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             Brother Aher


that is what i would love to hear from you, and remember there is always a way if we have the will and the determination.


(one mile marathon starts with a single step)


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                                     Kuat.



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