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Is it a good idea for our people to have conflict again [7 vote(s)]

Is the problem between our leaders be solve through dailogues
42.9%
Through Violence
14.3%
Is it an issue that couldbe handle through leadership ccouncil
28.6%
I don't know how this problem can be solve
14.3%


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Greetings


Dear all


Greetings to all of you. I am happy to be back to this forum after my return from our beloved country Sudan. I was in Rumbek; I left the area this week on Friday afternoon. And it is my pleasure to share ideas together with many of you as usual. I can see the problems between the SPLM High-level Leaders have dominated most of those the discussion boards. Yes it is a concern of all southerners. What I can tell you is that, the way this problem is taken here in Nairobi and Diasporas is not the way our people at home look it. Of the course the problem is there and our people at home are expecting the issue to be solve through dialogues. No one is/are interested to return the people of southern Sudan who are "smelling their lost peace" back to frontline to lose more live again.

Regarding the statement from Bahr El Ghazal, yes the list attached were the attendance who are living in Rumbek and the surrounding locations. The meeting at its capacity was discouraging any future conflict (s) that may occur among our communities as it had happened in 1991.


Finally let us wait and see what the leadership council, the decision-making body of the movement will say about the problem.

Peace and Love


Best regards,

Tong Deng


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Hi Tong Deng,


Welcome back brother, we have missed you a lot in the forum. Pertaining the issue you touched about SPLM/A conflict in the high ranking personels. It had indeed dominated the forum because we are curious to know what is taking place over there in the movement. The Rumbek emergency meeting did not satisfy us because it excluded our high ranking leaders of Bhar el Gazal, so that is why it is questionable. You can elaborate to us more why this meeting did not call all the Bhar el Gazalians' important leaders. Once again, welcome back to Mading Aweil public forum.


Santino Ajith



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Dear Uncle Tong


 Welcome back brother!!


 The vast Majority, who signed the document on behalf of the entire region in Bhar el Ghazal, were Rumbekers, Yirolists, Except for the fewer businessmen and women  from different areas resideding there. I know the letter has lessened the wild impulse and the states of anxiety from people like myself subjects to the longest civil war, but the delicacy and complexity of comprehending this message without any shadow of doubts lies solely on the outstanding commanders in Bhar el Ghazal signed. This would be the right moment for all of us to repremand  the scaremongers  


   Therefore: the letter posted by our leaders in response to Dr. Garang is indefensible and it's contradicting at the same time. We look forwards to seeing High commanders and commisioners signed the documents than the  yesterdays commanders. Non of us likes division  occur when we are at the stage to final peace accord signed. Anything done besides our notable commanders will be considered null by those who know the military strategy.


 Thanks


Deng Yel



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To add on what brother Bol and Deng have said, this letter has failed to meet the expectation of sons and daughters of Bhar-el-gazal. This letter was written and signed by officers from Rumbek and Yirol, does it mean that Bhar-el-gazal is represented by these two districts? I am not convinced, something must be going. To me, this letter is an insult to the people of Bhar-el-gazal because this shows the level of contempt these two districts have on the rest of Bhar-el-gazal. That can not be tolerated. I am still waiting for a letter from signed by all regions of Bhar-el-gazal or the one signed by Salva Kiir himself. This one here is bogus as I said two days a go, this will continue to be my position.


 



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Welcome back Tong Deng, how is it going back home? Hope everything and everyone is doing cool down there. Yeah the on going rumour has disturbed most of us, we don't get the true picture of what actually is going on. We have received series of articles all of which don't measure up to the level of our expectation. Most of us are wondering what has become of SPLA/M information spoke person, Samson Kwaje who refuse to brief the public on this crucial issue. We never also heard anything from the top SPLA/M officials like John Garang and Kiir Mayardit. There seemed to be communication breakdown, I would guess. 


We were sent this article said to be from Bhar-el-gazal but it doesn't seem to convince anyone either because many voices within Bhar-el-gazal appear to have been left out. Do you know the circumstances under which this letter was written. I would assume that there is communication difficulty in southern Sudan. Any way tell us what you know. Regards.


Kuot Kuot.



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Dear all


First of all I would like to take this opportunity to thank everybody for your warmest welcome. I would like also to clarified some few points that are being asked by brothers who response to my last posting.


I have mentioned earlier the people living in Rumbek and the nearby locations only attended the meeting as stated in my previous posting. It has been put by Kuot kuot that there are communication problems in Southern Sudan. It is true. That why many of us are unable to communicate with you people when in southern Sudan because we all know that communication facilities are still lacking in southern Sudan. Me who was there in Rumbek cannot condemn the meeting or describe as bad initiative because of the very reason which I am going tell you here. You have heard all the rumors and confusions which are circulating around and none of our leaders took the initiative to brief the public of what is going on. Pieng Deng and Daniel Deng Monydit at their capacity called for the famous meeting and summarized the minutes of what was discussed and sent it by radio to two leaders and all SPLM/SPLA units to make everyone aware about the outcome of Rumbek meeting. It is also true and I agreed with you that some of regional authorities were not available in the meeting but let us not put the blame on those who have the advantage to have attended the meeting. I know there was some obstacle which prevented their present. Logistic is another major obstacle leave alone the communication problems. Let me tell you one thing no one in southern Sudan is/are in a position of encouraging south-south conflict. The two leaders are advises to come together to discussed their problems in good faith and ensure that all the pending grievances among them are settle by leadership council.


The leadership council met Dr. Garang yesterday and the delegation led by Dr. Riak and Mr. Lual Diing are about to leave for Yei to meet Salva Kiir too. You can now see things are going on well.


The chiefs in Bahr el Ghazal have prepared themselves to confront Garang and his deputy. They argued if the south goes back to war tomorrow then Kiir, Garang and their children won’t be there to face the consequences, it is our children to meet the result, that the chiefs’s position as we talk today. They are not ready to welcome anything else apart from peace.  


Coming to side of Salva Kiir who is very bitter with Dr. Garang due to some imminent grievances between the two them, he (Kiir) is not with option of violence. He wanted the problem settle by the leadership council and other relevant southerners. In short the leadership council has taken up the issue. Let be patient we shall hear from them soon.


To answer Mr. Kuot question about why Samson Kwaje or and senior SPLM officials are quite to inform the media. My answer might not right because I am not involve in decision making of such kind of issues but I could guess that it hasn’t reached the level of informing the media. It is an internal problem, which is expected to be resolve internally.


Deng Yel I disagree with you brother with your point for the way you have ignore the commanders which you term “commanders of yesterday”. Let me tell you and others plus you will agree with me. Deng Monydit and Pieng Deng plus numerous of officers who attended that meeting in Rumbek has been in the movement almost from the beginning and had contributed to Liberation struggle significantly. Thus they shouldn’t be ignored. The same people whom you viewed as nothing are the people who will be in action tomorrow if thing come to worse. Do you wanted them to accept chaos situation to happen while they will be the one to sffer tomorrow? So I think pressure from the ground is important because the leadership council or high command is there as policy makers to bless the public wish.


 


Thanks


Tong Deng


 


 



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Hi Tong Deng,
It is so great to hear from you again. Welcome back buddy. I think it is a great advantage to have you on this board,and I hope we are going to learn more from you about this so called Southern Sudan potical disorder .
I guess all of us are aware and were expecting a mess like that to happen at some points.We been through a lot of changes in that delicate poliical system of Southern Sudan. Our political thoughts of our current and to be government of the South are somehow altered despite the on going the peace process.
To be realitics, the whole issue in Sudan to me, is easy to understand than to explain. Any immediate solution to the problem in Sudna will only come when the masterminds understand how destructive they are.What will happen next as a result of these misunderstandings among our leaders is hard to tell right now,but let keep our fingers cross for peace to come in Sudan.
I wish you all the best.
Ben Aguer.


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Dear all,


Southern Sudan in the phase of "political amensia."


All we have been getting is indeed preposterous to the fundamental fact that might come up some days later. It is always true that a solidier will never expose the important information of his master to his opponents or critics, it is ethical and I believe there should be nothing wrong about it. We are all Aweil children but we have different political ideologies and principles which guide us in our lives, therefore, it is extremely difficult to believe your opponent's position. 


Moreover,the voice of the entire region, if believed that the problem is between Garang and the region is highly important at this crucial time. However, I would not demand more clarifications relative to this disturbing issue. Those who wish Garang's gigantic mistakes to escape public notice as well as condemnation have legitimate right to do so because they trust him based upon his policies and decisions. On the contrary, some of us who don't trust John Garang's detrimental policies and ideas will always hold their reservations and doubts no matter what kind of clarifications might be put forward. A lot of people particularly those who have lost their loved ones in this "reign of terror" under Garang's leadership will always remain unsatisfied with whatever Garang is doing. John Garang ability to rule people tyrannically but he has no ability to rule people democractically, I say this statement with assertion. I will always be paranoid of his tactics and policies.


While I don't encourage any fierce violence between Garang and Salva, I am glad that John Garang has been told of his massive mistreatments and other collosal mistakes he has irresponsibly done. The need for a constructive modifications and transformations in his leadership are badly required and let's hope John Garang will sincerely address these grievances or concerns upcoming meeting with council. John Garang's administration has a bad history of denigrating other people importance and contributions; he (Garang) has made the country his manufactory and the people his workmen which is indeed contrary to our modern politics and governance.


Furthermore, I will never be happy with John Garang because of his reckless leadership which caused Northern Bhar el Ghazel  an enormous problem in the period of devastating slavery.


Thanks,


Garang Aher 



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Dear mayik Aher,


You have said it all, nobody support the violence between John Garang and Salva Kiir but truth must be said. Time will come in Aweil where truth will be accepted unanimously regardless of our political stand point or differences. All of us have witnessed massive slavery and death to our people since this dreadful civil war broke out in Sudan. I am certain that we ought not to forget it if we do at certain times.


Santino Ajith



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Santino Bol,


Again, it is indeed a disturbing scenario for most of us who care much for the vulnerable people in the South Sudan, especially women, children and the disabled.


Prior to this rampant rumor, the vast majority in the South have been longing for better leadership and policies; however, we have never wished any aggressive or violent confrontation between Garang and some of his officers. We all believe that constructive changes through a democractic leadership, where all people will have unlimited access to the management and pariticipation in their own government will be feasible sometimes. This ideally has been our dream and guiding principle for our future political improvements and beneficial changes.


Southerners don't want violence in the leadership but they need changes through democracy where all leaders will be elected by the people they will represent both locally and nationally.


"Democracy is not the best system but there is no better system than democracy." By Winston Churchil, former British Prime Minister.


We need the government "of the people, for the people, and by the people." By Abraham Linclon.


 



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Hello Tong Deng


   You may disgree with me, but you will understand what Iam trying to Say. Pieng and Deng Monydit cannot represent the whole region. There are a lot of questions which made me released those statements you read. Non of Gogrial & Aweil top commanders did not appear in the posted list that you,re defending. I am still doubting since there is no much evidence that would satisfy everybody.


      Marial Nuor and Deng Monydit are from Rumbek. Pieng, being the governor of Bhar el Ghazal is declaring his stands with those that are in Rumbek. The list was so confusing and needed the hell of clarifications before we could believe it. I also understand that Rumbek is becoming an administrative and a business centre in the south. That is why the bunch of LT, 2 LT, and majors are on the list. Otherwise, there would have been a high ranking officials as many brothers have mentioned.


Have a wonderful morning.


Deng Yel Akok


 


 


 


     



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Dear Ben Aguer


 


This is a good opportunity having had this discussion, which bring everybody together. We here in Kenya and Sudan still remember you but we failed to figure out where you are. Thanks to Mading Aweil discussion who made it possible for you to communicate us. Last month I was checking the list of users on this website to see who is there and with my surprise your name appeared in the list. I immediate I wrote to you a private e-mail to confirm whether that was you. I failed to receive the reply from your side. Please receive our warmest greetings from my family, Victor Ngor Nyong and me. It is great pleasures for all of us hearing from you after long last.


 


I agree with your analysis. All of us were born in southern Sudan and we know how political situation has been going for the last centuries up to the present day.


 


 


Have a nice time.


 


 


Tong Deng 



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Tong Deng,


Pass my wishes to this buddy of mine; Ngor Nyong, he is a great person. I Have never heard from him since late 02.



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