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Guys, read this long artical, Criticizing, Ask Yourself Who Is Salva Kiir???


Posted by A. Makuer on November 25, 2004, 22:00:26, in reply to "Re: Stop Criticizing, Ask Yourself Who Is Salva Kiir???"





Dear All,

The following is another piece of information with regard to the current situation in the movement:

Sudanese sources predict split in rebel SPLM


NAIROBI, Nov 24, 2004 (Al-Sharq al-Awsat) -- There were contradicting reports yesterday about a sharp split in the Sudan People`s Liberation Movement (SPLM). The reports ranged between confirmation and denial. SPLM leader Dr John Garang emphatically denied the rumours that have been circulating for weeks about differences between him and his first deputy, Salva Kiir Mayardit, which reportedly reached the point of a split.


However, southern Sudanese sources told Al-Sharq al-Awsat that a split has become "inevitable, and Salva Kiir will confirm it officially at a news conference with journalists from all over the world".

In a written message to the commanders and bases of the Sudan People`s Liberation Army, Garang assured them that Salva Kiir was still in the movement, and the reports that he had split from it were untrue. Southern Sudanese sources told Al-Sharq al-Awsat the day before yesterday that the dispute between Garang and his deputy has reached the point of "no return" and that Salva Kiir was preparing to announce the "removal of Garang from the leadership of the Movement within hours". The sources added yesterday that Salva Kiir and his group mocked the calming messages sent by Garang and noted that the announcement of the split was only a few days away. The sources explained that Salva Kiir would hold a news conference at his headquarters in Abyei (southern Sudan) soon to announce the reasons that prompted him to remove Garang. They said that the Bahr al-Ghazal group, led by Salva Kiir, had asked for logistical support from Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni to confront the Garang forces. However, Museveni refused. They explained that Salva Kiir commands the majority in the field and can resolve the matter and remove Garang.

The SPLM leader denied this story. In a speech (a copy of which was received by Al-Sharq al-Awsat), he said: "Salva Kiir is one of the founders of the Movement and one of its main pillars. Salva Kiir did not join the major split that took place in the Movement in 1991, but fought for the unity of the Movement."

In his speech to his forces, Garang continued: "Now they are targeting the unity of the Movement... Such rumours are coming from the enemies, particularly as we are approaching peace."

While SPLM sources yesterday accused Khartoum of being behind the rumours about a split, informed government sources in Khartoum denied any involvement in this matter. However, they told Al-Sharq al-Awsat that the security services have been closely watching and monitoring the escalating differences in the SPLM. They believed that according to the estimates of the security services, these differences have now reached the point of semi-rebellion against Garang in several areas under his control.

The sources denied any government connection with the dispute in the SPLM, which they said began during the time of the signing of the security arrangements agreement in the middle of last year. They said the struggle within the SPLM was an internal affair which "the government is aware of, but has absolutely nothing to do with". The sources stressed that the government was extremely keen to advance the peace process, which has reached its final stages, with the SPLM, with which it began the process from the beginning. The sources wondered: "If the government wants to split the Movement into tribes and factions, with whom will it implement the existing agreement and with whom will it reach the end of the line in the peace process?" The sources added: "If, in the end, internal changes took place in the Movement, this would be its own affair, and not all the things a person wishes for can he get."

The government sources, which asked not to be named, affirmed: "If the dispute within the SPLM continues to escalate at the current monitored rate, it will undoubtedly have a negative effect on the peace process. If it is not resolved, it will affect the implementation of the agreements reached between the two sides in the Nifasha rounds of negotiations, which have been going on for almost two years."

The sources said Garang is now in a real predicament, although he tried in successive statements recently to belittle the effects of the conflict in his Movement. They noted that Garang would make every effort to conclude the peace process as soon as possible so he will not be consumed by the conflict before he reaches this goal.

Reports are circulating in Khartoum these days about sharp disagreements in the SPLM, which reached their peak last week. Unofficial reports say that a general rebellion exists in the ranks of the SPLM, but this rebellion is more apparent among SPLM members in Bahr al-Ghazal and Al-Istiwa`iyah. Reports in Khartoum say: "The disagreements broke out not because of the arrangements for the peace process and the feeling of the people of these areas that they will gain nothing from this peace deal" but because of earlier transfers and dismissals carried out by the leader of the Movement, which coincided with the progress made in the peace process. Middle-ranking commanders affected by this move regarded it as an early termination of their services in the Movement, so they "rebelled and mutinied", according to the reports. The reports say that tension last week reached a point that forced the SPLM authorities to close the Rumbek Airport and restrict the movement of the people in the town.

According to these reports, Commander Isaac Mamor, the most prominent SPLM commander in the Al-Istiwa`iyah (Equator), is leading the rebellion among the people of Al-Istiwa`iyah. He is justifying his rebellion, according to the reports, by the decision of the SPLM to carry out transfers among the middle-ranking field commanders, which were arbitrary and hurt the people of Al-Istiwa`iyah. Therefore, he decided to confront the neo-imperialism, in a reference to Garang`s policies in the coming period. The reports link the rebellion of the Al-Istiwa`iyah members against Garang with a strongly worded statement issued by a group of SPLM members in Al-Istiwa`iyah the month before last entitled "A final warning". The statement talked about the injustice felt by the Al-Istiwa`iyah members in the SPLM in recent years. The reports say that Commander Salva Kiir, the first deputy to Garang, known as the strong man in the Movement, is leading the rebellion in Bahr al-Ghazal. Commander Paul Malunik Awan, Commander Majak Akwat and Commander Pior Ajank Dor are supporting him in this move.

The reports say that Garang is currently busy sending guidance to his field commanders in which he is trying to deny the existence of new disagreements in his Movement. They said that Salva Kiir, with a large number of field commanders, is in control of several positions. He issued instructions to his supporters to open fire at any aircraft that flies over the area without the permission of his group.

The reports also said that Salva Kiir asked Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni to provide him with forces to attack Garang`s forces, but Museveni refused. The reports say that Salva Kiir has publicly attacked Garang and accused him of making decisions alone, articulating visions and strategies, and controlling the money and policies in a way that did not give a chance to others to express their own opinion. He also accused Garang, saying that the concessions he made in the negotiations could rekindle the problem in the south and not solve it with the other partner (the government). Salva Kiir thinks that Garang has begun to target middle-ranking and high-ranking commanders, which means he is repeating the scenario he used with some of his commanders, including Martin Magir, Joseph Adohu and William Nun.

The reports say that Garang`s traditional opponents among southern politicians like Bona Malul, Francis Denik, Aldo Ajo Denik and Justine Yak are adding fuel to the fire of the escalating conflict in the SPLM. They are using their influence and relationships, which they created over the past four or five decades, with the international community and its organizations, which, at a certain period, served as a bridge for Garang himself. The Western world has a definite desire to achieve peace and urge all the parties to move towards it without hesitation or deviation. The reports predict that if the situation reached the point of armed confrontation between Garang and the new rebels, particularly Salva Kiir, the final round will be in favour of Salva Kiir, who commands the majority of forces on the ground, including mechanized units, communication equipment, civil authority structures and relief centres. Garang is left only with his legitimacy status and some students of the new generation who rose up because of him.

Material from the BBC Monitoring Service.



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Great article, dictator is surely on the run. The man is finished folks, even if he is still talking tough in Nairobi, why doesn't he go back to south Sudan if he is still the leader. Let's wait and see.


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People, you are just selling your dignities for nothing and tomorrow is coming to you to be great leader in Southern Sudan or Sudan in whole. Kiir is not spliting from SPLM/A. If he is, then let me read his original statements of spliting SPLM/A from trusted source. You guys need to Learn from past. Great heroes tried to topple Garang the same way you guys expected. but they eventually failed and came back to SPLM/A or loose their life throught difference circumstances. furthermore try to translate Akut Kuei song "Wek monyjang we bi thook e terek. Ku Dinka we thook e terek. Na cak nyuc ku bak pioth mat ke we monyjang bi thook e terek".

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Tinny Joker,


Garang fell out with his first Dupty Karbino Kuanyin, they reconciled but he eventually killed him, he then fell out with his second Dupty William Nyuon Bany, they got reconciled but he conspired against him and he was also killed. Now he has fallen out with his third Dupty. The assumption will be that, if they reconcil, he will Kill Salva like he did to his former Dupties. knowing quite well that the man is a killer, do you expect Salva to spare Garang or to accept reconciliation with Garang's given his history? Salva willl not spare Garang this time. Garang now has a choice to make either to go for excil or have his big tummy torn apart. He is a man who can never be trusted and that is why Salva is prepared to kick him out from southern Sudan, Salva won't even allow him go to Bor, his home town. It is a matter of who is who in southern Sudan now. Of course Garang knows quite well that he is nothing but pathetic dictator who can be kicked out any time without any effect on vital issues as peace talk. Got it?


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Tinny Joker 1,


Nobody care about a dignity. We care about the future of our war torn nation south sudan. You can lead us provide that you will not fall in your brother's footstep. I always vomit when I think of Garang atrocities to the people of BEG. Kuot Kuot had laid down what happened to Garang's first two deputies . Do you want him to kill Salva in the same way? Let him prepare his grave this time, enough is enough and no more condoning to assassins.


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Tinny Joker,Garang is not King in Southern Sudan. let me give you some few mistakes and wrongs choices Garang made, look back the history of the movement Garang made wrong choice of getting support from the communist sides, don't you see that as one of the weakeness of Garang leadership? another weakeness of Garang leadership was the killing of Martin Majer and Bol Akok, these two men with goog quality of education advise Garang not to take communist sides but, your uncle Garang object their wise moves and order them death penality locally. Tinny be honest to look carefully about your uncle or step dad action toward others, why did he expect others to listen to his advise and he ignore other people advises? Garang is truely a dictator and big escapegoat that means also he is green snake in green grasses. you cannot understand Garang accept you have vision for ever southerner. Tinny, Uken e jam gon dhiok ace yin aok ok gon tui, tenne e got dhiak ken yen yeneyeben jam, so don't take it personal. Garang is not  playing dirty game only to those fare away but against you also. Be open to new ideas and set short-term and long term-goals.

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Kuot Kuot. Please stop lying. Garang didn't kill any of those you mentioned.
If you really know the details of the SPLM/A. Than you should not talk about Kerubino Kuanyin. You will let your ass kick by Gokrial folks... Do you know how many people Kerubino killed in mayen Abun his home town (village) and Akon? And how many people died of Starvation cuz of him in 1994?. If he is really a leader, why would he did that to his own people. I mean his own fathers, mothers, Bothers and Sisters. Is that the kind of leadership you guys have in Bhar el gazal or claim to rule the whole Southern Sudan?.
I am not depending Garang or his leadership to be taken from him. But any way, if you guys want to make it democracy as you said, than Kiir is not gonna be eligable for that position again, cuz he is Dinka and Garang is Dinka and we have so many communities in the south who participate in the war and want to hold that position. One other thing it seem like Bhar el gazal against Bor.And Bor is not a region as you think. The region is Uppernile. What about if Garang position is given to Nuer or equartoria? are you guys gonna mock him like the way you are doing now? trust me, this leadership is not gonna go to Bhar el gazal until the end of the world if you guys keep that attitudes.This position will be given to either Dr Riek Machar Teny or James Wani Igga wether you want or not. And we southerners will see how you gonna take it. enough is enough.

Santino Ajith Go ahead kill Garang. he prepare his grave. Push him in....>

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Tinny Joker 1,


The name Dinka has been missused by John Garang and his likes. So any southern tribe leader can be Garang's successor. We are not claiming to put a Dinka leader in Garang's position but we want a fair leader who represent south sudan values whether Dinka or any other tribes in south sudan. I prefer Dr. Riek Machar better than John Garang.


BEG is against Bor because Bor take them special and superior over the others. Besides Bor view themselves as a region. The mess in Uppernile is caused by Bor superior act. Take example to what happened in the lost boys national convention in Arizona. Bor monopolized the leadership exempting the rest of the regions in south sudan. Is that the kind of leadership we are looking in to as citizens of south sudan long oppressed by arabs elites in the north?


Participartion in the war, BEG contributed a lot and therefore should be eligible for the leadership position in south sudan.


John Garang and his Bor counterparts had missused the Dinka name for so long, so it is time to get rid of him and give the chance to other people. It is worse for a Dinka man to kill his fellowers Dinka men in the cause of struggle such as the assassination of Bol Akok, Majer, Kerubino among others.


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Ayuen you are not in good mode, did you mean faire distribution in leadership? what do you think about "Lost Boys leadership in Arizona" is that leadership equally distributed? my friend don't try to fuse ideas you guys are well known for egotism and selfishness in everything. At this point I will conclude you as wacky person, please watch your words if not you will present yourself on the cross and die like criminal.



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