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arranged marriage and difficlities


Why do sudanese men in America, Canada, Europe, austrolia go back to Africa to find wives rather then marriage Sudanese women who live in those countries above?


its seem to me that is too difficult for Sudanese men to marry an African women who still back home and bring her to where he is or to the western world.


one of difficlties is:


immigrations procese take serval years before women enjoy her hasband.


some time women change their mind when they get there.


if the woman stays for more than four years in Africa mistake may happen.


brothers and sisters, despite these difficlties, why do you think men still go to Africa to find wives? 



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Hey!homsis or friend, Garang Dhieu.


nice to hear your voice againt, welcome to mading aweil website and feeling you like home,for long time man,so how its life going on there in SD, daer brother Yes,it is seem too difficals to everyone who trying to merriage from africa, and bring his wife here, for immigration processes take long time to finish before woman enjoy her husband. but brother, why you forget to give us, a background or good detials, about the these Ladies, you get them in these countries you reminding,America,Canada,Europe,Austrolia. please can you give us agood detials or any good their background, so we cann,t go back to Africa to merriage there againt?and we can stay here to merriage them.because for Immigration process took long time to be finished and woman waited for you, to met with you for anyway.


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Jackson Anei  



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Dear Garang.


Guys you seem to be talking in big case which is not easy for us to be discuss in that way .first of all i want you to know that we come here to get something and go back with it .we didn't moved here to marriage white ladies so that we change to white people or if you meant to marriage sudanese ladies than you are right but ,where are they ?regardless of what you said about process used to take long time.i think is the only way to keep our orgin becouse the marriage is  the only way for Dinka man to keep his life continues but.if  Dinka man marriage from somewhere else than later on his grandchildren  is not good .therefore we have to take it easy but if one get benti halal here in north America or ca eu ast,etc.maburk for him  but we have to go back Africa to marry our sisters is a  better way.and if people worry about what  will happan in futere than we will lose our next generation .( ting aci lang pouou ka moj leu thin )(wife is not perfect without is hasband)


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K.L 



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I think those have responded to the author's curiosity seemed to misunderstand or simply ignore the reason behind the case in question.


According to my own understanding, the guy is asking us of why we don't marry Sudanese (mostly South Sudanese gals) who are less costly in terms of immigration processes, and other social constraints like the change of minds (if gal waited for so long).


My answer to the author would be that, our gals who reside close to us in the West have undergone cultural change (I meant adoption of the negative aspects of Western values). They lost the bidding conventional norms and values. They are no good anymore. I am not trying to universalize the case but most of them are no good for a long-term and enduring marriage. Have you ever gone to any South Sudanese "Party" or social gathering? If yes, then what have you so far observed? It is disgraceful. Besides, they don't go to sckools or do the house-works which are expected of them. So such kinda gals are not worth it, rather it is good for one to lose handful of dollars and experience anxious long-wait before he could meet her sweetheart from Africa who will be productive, understanding and respectdful than the wild-gals we often see on streets and at Clubs.


Anyways, guys forgive me for degrading our gals who happen to live in the West with us. My point is that, they miss the reason they came to Western world for.


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Brother Wangkec,


You are doing a very big generalization although you have a point. It is true that a lot of south Sudanese girls here in the West have refused to go to school. Some of them are abusing the freedom western world has given all of us. But that is not their problem alone, there are men too who are living a cool lives but do not know what they are doing. More men than girls have refused to go to school.


The reason why people go back to Africa to get wives instead of getting them here is that, there are very few south Sudanese girls in the west. But marrying a girl here in the west instead in Africa is very important. This is because if a girl loves you here in the west, then, that love is real because her love for you is not influence by other forces. But if a girl loves you in Africa, that love may or may not be genuine because there are many factors that influence her love for you. For example, she may be forced by her parents to love you so that they get wealth, in such a case, her love for you is not true. She might not have love you if you were there with her. So she may break up with you once she comes to the west. I am not attacking girls in Africa here, they are our sisters, the point I wanted to put across is that, it is good to marry here if you can find a girl. Parents in the western world care less about dowry than parents in Africa, this make girls in the western world more independent to choose men of their own choices. Once a girl has chosen a man she likes, chances of family breaking up with her are reduced. But in case of a girl who might have been forced to marry you by her parents who wanted to get wealth from you, chances are that, she will break up with you when she comes to the west. To make it short, marriage in the west is better than marriage in Africa.


Uncle Dengdit.



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Dear, Uncle Dengdit


concering arranged marriage and difficulties you had made very strong points, i am glad to hear all of your thought about that.


thank you


 


Garang Dhiue


U.S SOUTH DAKOTA



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Dear all,


This is one of the most intricate and intriguing topic,because as per our traditional norms and values marriage is secrete and holy and even in this  modern contemporary society marriage is a covenant in which there are terrible implications if violated.


However, as mentioned before by other writers, the marriage under the discussion especially within the Dinka community has missed its purposes and modalities it has been undergoing ever since.


If you pardon me , I will address this directions and deviation of marriage under two headings... materialisation of marriage and cultural conflict in marriage.


The marriage has been materialised and commercialised in the sense the parents forced their daughters in to marriage with  young men from western world whose affection and love has never exist between them, I'm not being derogatory but I want to bring the truth to the light.


I want to dispute the previous writer who assert that women who are married in Africa and brought to the western world are so faithful,caring,obedience and loyal to their husbands which is an opposite of the reality, I'm completely aware of some cases or incidents were women have been married and brought to western world but embarrassingly rejected their husbands, and this because of the lack of the love between the two and other thing being the failure of men to see their darker side and taking the women as the objects but not their companion. For the family to perpetually remain in love, both couples should be faithful,obedience,caring and loyal to one another, a mutual relationship, i'm not being feminist from this perspective.


This is hands-experiece warning to us that not all our marriage from Africa where the so called traditions values are being adhered to will always be successful,let expect shortcomings too.


Secondly, the conflict between Dinka cultural values and western values have jeopardized the Dinka conception of marriage. According to the African in general ladies are expect by their parents and their future husbands to be a good gal. A good girl in relation to marriage is a virgin girl who have never been deflowered by any man. This is one of the barbaric conception that we should eradicated from our mind given that the girls are human and they are expected to meet their natural desires before getting marriage. how do we expect girls to be virgin and not also man???.. that's bull****!... the same young men goes with girls and after ruining them,they branded them as a prostitute, somethings that is quite disgusting.


Also do wearing fashions,education and socialising with other people qualify somebody to branded as a prostitute,unwanted or outcast, most young wear fashions and feel indignant when they see girls wearing fashions to meet their standard?,men also feel proud of having gone with many women but a great sin for women, that is so ironical.


Finally, to make me lengthy arguement short and to the point,let not travel miles to go and marry in Africa because they gals in the western are destroyed that is a wrong mentality, let marry these girls who are educated and who are in position to challenge your intellectual wits despite all other factors which we are so negative about them, if you happen to fall in love with one because we are human being and each and every one of us has it own weakiness. It is also good for us to marry our sisters back at home but let not take advantage of their iliteracy to their exploitation.


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Fidele mareng.


 


 



-- Edited by udele at 01:13, 2005-02-13

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Fidele,


     You said it all, brother. Simply put, you made me speechless. However, to add onto your eminent analysis of Dinka marriages, I would say, if you please, that forced and merchandisable marriages lead to many family break-ups in our society. Hence, I strongly believe, if you will, that all of us be charged with responsibility of righting this social malady, possibly through civic education.


     Thanks,


     James Alic Garang.



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Hi James Alic,


Looooo......ng time ma man, my meeting you online remind me of our old Lakorae boys.


We used to have a great time buddy, with the like of actor,early man,depressor and many others.


I really thank you for your remarks, it is a time that we have to change our attitude and adapt recommendable social norms that suit everybody.


thanks


Fidele.



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