Tinny Joker,

Ca ben ya Bor long no thia cin wel kuc kala? I think you have understanding problem, in the statement that you quoted, I am not trying to mock people of Bor for their unfortunate events of 1991. Only a fool will celebrate such an event, the point I was trying to make was that, Bor can't stand on its own without Bhar-el-gazal. Garang has not rescued us from Murrellin for your information, we fought Murrallen on our own. Garang's strategy has always been to crumble Bhar-el-gazal region because he sees Bhar-el-gazal as threat to his leadership. And that is why people of Bhar-el-gazal are more prepared than ever before now to chop his head off unless he runs to exile quickly. I don't have any problem with the people of Bor, my only problem is dictator and his cronies. Let me tell you that wether you like it or not, Garang is not longer a leader, he is a finished fool. By the way do you know that he already ran to Kenya? If he were still the C-in-C wouldn't he be on the ground during such crisis? He is now in Kenya and he is not going to go back to south Sudan whether he likes it or now, he might in fact consider coming to Atlanta Geogia for asslum, expect your uncle from their any time soon. Manhom has mention a great point, our aim is change, it doesn't matter who leads, anyone but Garang is can make a good leader. So Tinny Joker, Garang is gone man and gone for ever, start mourning if you like.

Kuot Kuot.

Tinny Joker One,

My friend, you are struggling against the men of action. We have a genuine mission to tell John Garang let alone alcoholics and drug addicted like you. People like you and your likes who are joyfully celebrating this will soon be brought to justice. Most families in Aweil community, something unprecedented, have completely extinct. This has happened in Aweil for the first time in history, but not because we were unable to defend ourselves, but simply because our young men who had in the greatest number went to Bilfam for training were detained in Upper NIle, Blue Nile, and Equatoria. Tinny Joker One, to tell you that we are serious about this case, I would like to add that nobody will be exempt from this potential grilling and investigation, even Aweill leaders will be included because they have to explain how John Garang misled them.

Tinny Joker one, their disappearance is extremely painful to us because we believe we have sufficient army to crush Muralleen as well as egregious miscarriage of justices in Garang's administration. Tinny Joker One, if you think we are debating and that is why you are so mockery and derogatory in all your posts, then you ought to back off because you won't be courageous enough to face the reality of this case.

Mayik Aher

Thank you Amok Amok for the piece of advice you gave me. Actually that is what I realize when I try to call some of them lastnight. For example I try to trace some of them where they residing. but some don't even have addresses and some don't even show up in USA and Canada database. But their IP (internet protocols) and ISP addresses are USA and Canada networks. I found some and try to call them, But their room mates told me that they allready become Wallepi (Drunkers) and they don't even stay at home anymore. example are Kuot Kuot and Santino Ajith.
Any way,At this point,  I am not gonna waste mytime to crake my mind with such people.
Thank you Amok Amok...

Amok Amok,

My friend you go to school and leave us alone. I don't care whether you go school or not. I care for what I am currently doing that  is free my community ( Aweil) from decades of dictatorial behaviors in south sudan. I will not turn a blind eye to my community. For your information, do more research about Kuot Kuot, Garang Aher, Deng Santo, Mabior Isaac, myself (Santino Ajith) and the rest of Aweilians herein fighting for war on tyranny. See whether we are Aweil true citizens or not and see whether we go to school or roam on the streets drinking beers like you put it across. Amok, actions talk louder than words. Do what you are doing and don't insult others. I don't care whether you support John Garang or not but do it in logic manner. Please join your brothers Bor counterparts silently to adore John Garang at your homes and not in Aweil community.

Tinny Joker 1,

Don't talk in the voice of frustration and fear. Nothing will spare you should you continue moking Aweil community. Don't lie , you did not call anyone of us. Stop lying my friend. I am ready to send you my contacts if you are serious and you will see how I will handle you over the phone. I am serious about this issue and tired of John Garang actions, that is why I am using my real names Santino Ajith instead hiding them in your case (Tinny Joker 1). Face me with your real names like a man and don't hide them like a woman.

Santino Ajith

 

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Originally posted by: Amok Amok
"    TINNY,  i have never experience sombody like you in my life. you just cracked your mind to give this people all the fact about problems in southern sudan e.g slavary and so on. however, they don't understand what you are representing, they don't know what is  good leadership, what are the qualities of leadership. to tell you man, this are not real mading Awiel citizens they are just a internet learners. they are confused about politics. they don't even understand that no body need Dr. Garang to be king, meaning that to be in power forever. but to free us first regardless of whatever he had done in his leadersip, lets be ''free first'' from Arab. however, they don't know the politics. i wish the real Awiel people who  have understood the language of freedom, however, to came in and convenice them otherwise their kids would in the  ''vaccum''. please, please, tinny, this guys who run this backwarded politics are the street boys here in united states, they are not smart, they don't know what is going on  in the real world!!!!!!! look, i send good topic for education last month, likewise, nobody even contribute any single word to it because they ''hate'' to do something for the future to be proud with, this guys are not real Awiel people man. show them your mind, how beautifull it is, so they could came back from ''pussy''  and beer to help their real Wiel brothers that i know who are taking good advantage for this western world then KORKORA for the distruction of the future of south.      i wish you man to keep quite. remember Ayuen, you make good point in there before that your KORKORA would not affect SPLA. moreover, absolutly it wouldn't at all . so leave them alon i was so happy at the first when i found site . i thought it was for the future guys.  TO ALL  AWIEL GUYS, PLEASE DON'T TRY AGAIN TO LET BOR GUYS GO HEAD FIRST IN THIS WESTERN WROLD OTHERWISE YOU WOULD GET NOTHING IN THE SOUTH IN TERM OF QUALIFICATION. BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT, SOME YEARS COMING EVERYTHING WOULD BE BASED ON QUALIFICATION NOT CORRUPTION. YOU NEEDS SOME HELP FROM AYUEN TO TEACH YOU HOW TO USED COMPTER NOT HOW TO WRITE ON IT, BUT HOW TO BUILD IT OKY. GO TO SCHOOL TO BE DR LIKE GARANG SO THAT YOU CAN BE ABLE TO STAND LIKE BOR KIDS E.G LIKE TINNY (AWIEN/AYUEN) MAJOK    AMOK FOR NOTHING"

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Tiny Joker,

I think what you have done the most stupidest and brutal thing that can be done by any human person alive. I think you are an enemy of the south Sudanese out to cause disunity.I don't believe one single moment you are from Bor ....Nobody, not in Bor, BEG or anywhere else in south Sudan should ever do what you did. Like Thiep Angui, I had to shed tears too a thing done unto a brother is done unto me too.

Tiny Joker,
I don,t know you but this article you forwarded makes me feel like I have a say to tell your gut. Tiny/ Awien, you think it is funny to mock at those innocent faces and Aweil community as whole , but not. Those innoccnt brothers you have seen are the main reason why the atrocity in sudan calls the world attention today. you used them yourself as a support to seek for the refuge in the United States as you are today. Those kids you have seen in the artlice in thier innocent world as being mistreated are our heroes, but somebody of your kind can not understand. Tell you what, they are the main reason why our community and the rest of the southern sudanese are fighting arabs for since the time immemorial.

Awien, as you are speaking in context of supporting John Garang, and by using that article in term of the whole Aweil community, I would assume that you,and your friends if not the whole community you belogn to, are not just potential enemies of Aweil people,but part of common enemies we are fighting today in Southern Sudna.

Awien, those people you think are against your uncle John, are Southerners who do not like him for his attitudes ,but not because of who he is and where he comes from as you think and believe as a main suppoter.. He is a leader like any other leader , he is a human being like any other human being,and that is it!!!! What he was doing all these times was a job of, which the people of southern sudan as employers, assigned him to do as employee. Awien, John might have some credits we owed him,but he has had enough of us, and we at this juncture are sick of him. His era is over,if not now, expect it to be over anytime soon.
Awien, as you know and might have heard, the article you forwarded is not our mistake to let those innocent and beloved children of Aweil suffered as you think. You and your uncle John Garang are part of it. He knows it and you know it why, and I can not waste my time to tell you why, because if you are a really human being with fives senses you shouldn,t have done this, and forget the past.
My friend, this article you think is just a simple mockery you throw at us and feel good about it, but not. It is beyond than you think, but right on our last nerves. Those innocent faces in that article make me think of who I am and who are in reality. The reality is the history that article brings to us as reminder. Thanks to technology, we will keep it as for record till the day we come facc to face. Done worry, I am not trying to threaten you. I know you will get ****ed off, and try to defend yourself more for the better, but what you did to our feelings as a community, is beyond than what you still going to say. There will be a time when history will speak for both of us as people of common. Awien, make sure that you keep in mind and forward more of what you and your people know about us if still like to do so,but don,t forget to bear in mind that we know more about you than you do.







Amok Amok,
I read your poster about education a week or two ago,when you mentioned of our people being involved in pussy,pussy thing and forget school. It was a good idea to be mentioned and be decussed, but you poster today left me with a mixed thoughts, hard to figure exactly who you are .According to your today poster, you sound like intruder. How could you accuse the whole coummunity, and allegedly labeled them as "drinkers and street boys", yet you don't know really who they are?. Do you think that all the Aweil board users are of those kinds? My friend if you really are from Awiel, and think of us like this, then you are part it, because there is no way you can exclude yourself if you are here in exile with us. If you go to school whether in canada, the united states , Australia or other places on this planet, do you how many schools are there? Of coures, there are millions of millioins of them. If you go to one of them near you, and others don't go that paricular school you are in, it doesn't means they don,t go to school at all. They go to other schools far away from you. My friend, you totally wrong if you still think that way. Try to stop abusing people on the board for no reason, and be loyal to your community before it too late.



Ben Aguer.




"All our dreams can true,if we have the courage to pursue them"

Amok Amok,

Leave education alone.

We have no education but you will remember us forever.

Further, it is not your business to tell Aweil youths the importance of education nor do you need to tell them that the qualification will work in the future of South Sudan. In some respects, that might be true; on the contrary, it won't work because our fools have a natural wisdom and I hope and so do most of Aweillians, that they will guide us through these difficulties. We believe they are able to do the job as they are doing with John Garang. John Garang has a Ph.D and  he highly respects people like Paul Malong Awan, Dau Aturjong, Salva Kiir, Santo Ayang and many more, not because they have Ph.Ds like him, but simply because of their military performance, courage, perseverance, optimism, patriotism, caring, and love for their fellow-southerners.

This alone is much greater than Ph.D and other advanced degrees. They will be remembered more than your siblings or uncles who have Ph.Ds but they didn't do anything because they are not courageous and brave enough to face the reality of this crisis situation.  

Another important thing to recollect, We have Paul Malong Awan who has been shot nine times in this struggle and he is from Aweil community. On the contrary, I don't think you have one person of his rank in your community who has such injuries. It would be a miracle to find one there.

Amok Amok, Could you give us the name of one person in your community who has five/six injuries in his body?

Tinny Joker 1,

Keep searching, there are so many streets in USA, Canada, and Australia.

You will find us soon in one of the streets.

Thanks,

Mayik Aher

Brothers,

When Tiny posted those images, he didn't molest the Aweil community only,or BEG but the whole South Sudan. Therefore, I would like everyone to exercise restrain and not to trivialise this matter by reducing it into a community or regional issue. At the same wavelength too, it should not be allowed  to divide us, as i am quite sure now, the sole intention of this posting might have been to put us at each other's throat.These images should only serve to intensify our resolve and determination to root out the the enemy (Arabs) and put an end to these inhumane crimes on our land.

 Akut Kuei- I love them- stressed very correctly in their songs that ''were it not for the heroism of the Aweil and Abyei, there would never have been US-Southern Sudan". I take these images to be witness to this very true song. ''It is not between me and all the other tribe ( Nuer, Shilluk etc) but the main enemy '' that is what Akut Kuei adds.

Kuot Kuot                                                                                                          "Tinny Joker, I think you ought to give thank to the good people of greater Bhar-el-gazal, without them, your home district could have been be left in ruin by Nuer. People of Bhar-el-gazal gave up their lives to rescue the elderly, women and children of Bor in 1991 who would otherwise have been miamed by Nuer's forces. So whether dictator Garang is kicked out or not, you will still need people of Bhar-el-gazal. you should never forget that. Kuot Kuot."
   As I write now, I still don't believe that this is the Kuot Kuot I knew talking.Brother what happened to you ? You-we used to have this big picture of everything in South Sudan. Now when it does it turn into BEG- Bor issue? The same message goes to all the other brothers who are tending to a similar stance. For Gods sake You- we are something more precious,better than this.Tiny claims that it were these utterance by You that inflammed him to do what he did. I do not agree with him but I do not agree with you either.We need to understand and appreciate the fact that the events of 1991 are as well a sensitive and emotional issue to the Bor people.Futhermore as a moderator, I would be surprised if Tiny or any one  heed your cautioning if you seem to perpetuate or tolerate this kind of Argument in any way.Lastly but not least I would like you to delete those images because I find them very distressing and disturbing. Thanks.

Mayikaher,

As a moderator of the discussion on this board I know and agree that you can do any thing at your own discretion....like exposing somebody's true identity if he does not strike a cord with or ruffle your feathers in any manner since you have all the power and tools to do so.BUT I do not agree with you on one issue though. For you to think or seem to indicate in your postings that if Tiny/Awien is from Bor, that his behaviour/Postings receive the sanctity of Bor community is erroneous.Moreso no one -the so called Tiny included can prove beyond any resonable doubt he is actually from Bor. He might be just another Arab-by blood or heart masquerading in the name of Bor to put us against one another.Thanks.

 

-- Edited by Biar Yaak at 16:52, 2004-11-29

Baguer. Ask Kuot kuot what happen between me and his friend Mayom Bul in Canada last year? He was one of our peace maker online. We are not in Sudan or Aweil.... This is United State Of Awino Gam day.

Santino Ajith... I bet you read what Ben Aguer wrote and mind and understand them before you response.

Master Tinny Joker 1
Undercover Moderator.

Coming together is a beginning...> +
Sharing together is a progress.....> +
Keeping together is a success......> = Free South Sudan....>

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Originally posted by: Tinny Joker 1
"Baguer. Ask Kuot kuot what happen between me and his friend Mayom Bul in Canada last year? He was one of our peace maker online. We are not in Sudan or Aweil.... This is United State Of Awino Gam day."

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Ayuen (Tinny Joker 1),

Please leave these people of Aweil community alone. They have been so instrumental in our struggle for freedom and no one, even John Garang that you try to accredit, can undermine their enormous contribution in this struggle. Atlanta, Georgia is known as a place where some bad elements from Bor are. It was Thon Ajak and now it is you.

Garang Mabior is not yours. You are not even close to him. Let him, as a S. Sudanese leader, defend himself by what he does. Do not talk as if you represent the entire Bor area. It's only that this is a free forum but you weren't even close to where Bor representation was required when you were in Africa or Kakuma. Freedom of speech should not make you speak above your limit! Neither will you ever represent even Deer clan for there are better people I know here where i live!

As for what happened between us, let it remain there. I was convinced not to go further with my legal pursuit. Besides, you did not do it to me, but someone else. It is only that i was in correspondence with that person. Don't use it to intimidate other members for it wasn't even a big thing that you should brag about. Buying a software that gives the kind of information that you collect about others is just less than 50 dollars. I can buy it today and find your postal address, phone number, IP address, ISP etc. Right in Atlanta, a couple of my relatives (you know them very well) were pushing to face you squarely but i persuaded them to leave the issue and put it to rest. Otherwise, you would have already faced the music both legally and physically.

Just look back at your personal history in Kakuma and even right in Atlanta. We are social beings and we do hear about one another through others ( I said before that I have my relatives there).

My advice is, just leave these people alone.  

Mayikaher,

Thanks for welcoming me. People like Tinny Joker 1 use hoaxes such as the one you will see under this post of mine to scare people or make them believe that he is an expert in the field. Actually the truth is, even Tiny joker has no access to your information. It is only you who sees your own information. That is why I had to get my own signature and post it here so that tinny Joker1 can know that it's time to start living with the realities. And if anyone wants his own signature, let me know and you will just laugh mockingly at tinny Joker1 for trying to fool himself!

The softwares that we talked about are pretty cheap. It's only that people respect themselves and do not find happiness in nosing other people's affairs. For example, my friend has taught me few things about hacking but I won't try it on you or him. Hackers have their own code of conduct.

Kuot Kuot,

Man I must join the team and request you to delete those graphic photos whose links have been provided by Awino (Ayuen). I mean you can delete that post of his since you have the power to do so. People shed tears and I am not an exception. That suffering is something no one with a human heart can enjoy. We, including Tinny Joker1, were once subjects of almost that kind of suffering and coming to the west should not make us forget what we went through yesterday. I thought we can use our luck to help those unfortunate brothers and sisters who are subjected to such kind of life. Please I beg you to delete it. It is no pleasure at all. I really did not know we have HEARTLESS people like Tinny Joker 1 in our midst. 

-- Edited by mabbul at 07:20, 2004-12-07