Has the end come for dictator to go?

santino Ajith · Major Contributor

RE: Has the end come for dictator to go?

mayikaher · Major Contributor

Santino Ajith,

Thanks for welcoming Mayom Bul. We all know that there some individuals from Bor who can actually in their capacity cement a strong relation between them and other communities. All of us have great friends from Bor community and I don't think it is worthy losing them though we sometimes have fierce political divergent views. It is not a good habit either to denigrate other people importance as it is always done by some people. We have to recognize each other importance and that is the way we should go from now on.

Mayom Bul,

Feel free because our education will make us mix in all corners of Southern Sudan. We are the future of that country and therefore we must pay undivided attention to unity and peace in the South. We don't want to keep our country in the fragile phase.

Kuot Kuot · Major Contributor

Dear Mayom Bul,

Welcome to the board dude, I hope life is treating you good down there. I agree with you, the pictures posted here by TM were not really pleasing. No one is ever pleased with the suffering of other fellow human beings regardless of who they are. I won't even want to see an Arab suffer the way those kids suffer even if we are fighting them. There is that human aspect of us, which makes all forms of suffering at this extreme intolerable. I have already deleted those pictures because a lot of other people expressed concern over them and asked me to delete them. We can politically disagree and even fight but we won't want the other to be in that situation.

Again thanks for replying to Tinny Joker1 who used your conflict with him as a thing of pride and tool of intimidation. He thought he was operating in darkness, he never knew you were aware of his rhetoric. He will stop using your name from now on because it was your own decision to drop the case otherwise pursuing it won't have been difficult and more so there could be others who would only be glad to pursue it on your behalf. And you had strong evident that could earn this guy good number of years in jail.

I like your signature too, this is the same thing that I was telling people a few days ago on this board. That this signature is like any other ordinary signature, it doesn't record any data as Tinny Joker wanted people to believe. DanaSoft.com which provides this free signature is a very legitimate company, there is no way that it can make something which compromises security of others.

Finally, for everything made, be it weapon or otherwise, there is something to counteract it. So they would make misiles and there we have inti-misiles, they would make computer virus and there you see anti-that virus etc etc. Professional hackers who make a living out of hacking and not ghettos are well aware of what I am talking about.

Uncleloi,

You sound unhappy with Mayom Bul, and I understand why you would be annoyed because not everyone in Atlanta is that backward. There are great people in Atlanta who deserve our deepest respect you being one of them. Your level of argument on this board so far is enough to earn you respect from your readers. Even if I were to narrow it down to Tinny Joker's house, there are people right in the house he sleeps whom I know and respect. For instance, Gai Solomon who lives in the same house with him (or next door) is someone I respect both socially and intellectually. But I hope you will understand why Mayom Bul will have every reason to get ****sed off.

And by the way don't you think you guys who know or live together with this fellow have an obligation to guide him. He desperately needs some help on the true state of our world and particularly the country he lives in.

Kuot Kuot.

-- Edited by Kuot Kuot at 12:04, 2004-12-07

mabbul · Beginner Contributor

quote:
Originally posted by: Uncleloi
"“Atlanta, Georgia is known as a place where some bad elements from Bor are". "It was Thon Ajak and now it is you“ Mayom Bul, at what time of the did you write this part of your article? I will continue after you have given an answer."

Uncleloi,

You have asked a question that you can easily answer. Look at the time I wrote that article. Or if you think I was suffering from a hangover, then be it. At least it will prove to Tinny Joker that Bor is not an angelic subtribe. It has its own alcoholics too.

I tried very hard to be specific and that is why i used the word SOME. I was not even contented with that word because I thought it was not sufficient enough to convince people that I was talking about a couple of individuals. So I ended up mentioning the two names, Tinny Joker1 and Thon Ajak, who are said to reside in Atlanta, Georgia. I have said sometime back that I have a number of decent relatives in that city. I have a couple of very nice and humane friends there too. I am much aware that you live in Atlanta, the couple of times we have met both online and on your website told me that you are a nice guy. It would really be so absurd to generalize everybody in that city in this scenario.

Should you or anyone (apart from those two guys) in Atlanta misinterpret my direct response to those two individuals, then I sincerely apologize. My message was directed to none other than Tinny Joker1 and Thon Ajak.

Meanwhile, the two people above are really on the loose. As their close associates (in proximity), I would urge you guys to talk to them. What they say is not even healthy to the whole Dinka society and themselves as well. They have no mandate of representing Bor people. No one has endoresed them to be our speakers. They should start talking as individuals. Indeed they should be number one enemies of Bor. But I know some obstacles that may hinder you from doing so. One of them does not listen to anyone. Asiyefundzwa na mamaye, hufunzwa na ulimwengu. For sure the world will teach those who find it hard to learn at home. And this issue of Garang and Salva. What is wrong with is Tiny1? Does he think that Garang remains to be the SPLM/A leader because of his powers? He was endorsed by Southerners, including Salva, and his position should remain in our hands. In the recent meeting in Rumbek, Tinny Joker did not attend it. But here he talks as if he was the one who chaired that emergency meeting. At least Garang has come to his senses that the power he holds must not be taken for granted. Should he mismanage it, he is good to go. Of course he was not chosen because he is a Bor but because he was one of the people who were able to head the movement. There was nothing Bor when he became the leader. Even in 1994 national convention, he was reelected not because he is from Bor. Again how did Garang's leadership benefit people from Bor while the likes of Tinny Joker 1 spent most of his life in refugee camps. Sensible people do not take Garang's leadership as a Bor thing. Most southerners are competent enough to hold that position. Garang's deeds will lead him to either anguish or prominence. No one will share that consequence with him. If it is anguish, he will be in jail. If it is fame, his names (not tinny joker 1) will remain in the books of South Sudanese history forever.

All peopple of aweil community and greater BEG,

There is no problem with having political differences. It is a good way of democracy. It keeps me at your armlength and it also keep you at my armlength when we differ poltically. That leads to inter-crosschecking and that makes politics more balanced. But politics has a limit. When some guys like tinny joker take it to that extreme end, it is no longer politics but hatred and that can never be condoned by all means possible. The best thing I would request you is to ignore the IGNORANT. And as you guys might guess, such people are never allowed in the public domains or fora, not even at their family private gatherings. It's only that freedom of speech has promoted them to speak their mind that is full of junks!

I would also like to urge everyone to stick to politics and leave the two communities (Bor and Bahr El Ghazal) to breathe, as they have been suffocating for the last 21 years. That way, we can avoid attracting those people whose interest is only centred on the differences between the two communities. Actually we are one in everything except that the river divided us. Besides, most of us, from Bor, migrated from either Ngok (pan aru) or Bahr el ghazal.

K.K,

Thanks for your warm welcome. I am breathing buddy. The exams have started and i am busy like bee. How are the other mabeste in UBC? Hey, why didn't you come for the conference dude? TJ1 has to know that technological know-how is not only concentrated in Atlanta. And people are not dormant but pursuing their academic endeavours in various fields. I could see you have proven beyond no reasonable doubt that you can disarm him. But let's wait and see. If he insists, then I might take a second thought and maybe we can disarm him together.

Santion Ajith,

Thanks bro. My pleasure being with you here.

Mayikaher,

Thank you a second time. That is appreciated.

Mayom Bul.

PS sorry guys, it's a bit boring.

Kijana Dhor · Intermediate Contributor

Dear Mayom Bul!

Welcome to the board bro. Although we had been hitting hardly at each other, I have to agree with you at this point of your comment to Tinny Joker and kind words to people of Aweil who felt offended by those pictures. Infact when I saw those photos, the first think that come to my mind was the identity of Tinny Joker. Since he was living in Atlanta Georgia, I was forced to deliberate who is this Tinny Joker in Altantat Goergia?

At this point, I have to say that this guy is not normal and need some help. The guy need to know that the culture of country he is living cannot tolerate tempering with individual liberties. Even FBI cannot trace private rights without warranty from appropriate authority. That is an insult to the institution you are attending!

As I had alerted you earlier, I not gonna tolerate this unethical behaviors. Do it we settle it in the court of law period.

Dhor.

mabbul · Beginner Contributor

Dhor,

Man, let's stick to politics over there. I have no problem with any individual or a community. But I have no say if someone decides to differ with me politically. For example, if we both go to the parliament, we can slap and point fingers at each other while we invite each other for a cup of tea in our houses. That's how politics is. Political enemies do not necessarily have to be personal enemies and vice versa. Maybe a time will come when we will have the same political perspective since politics is very flexible.

ma110 · Beginner Contributor

Do you thinks your own stupidy that has blinded you from seeing the bar facts that, Garang is a True Leader who has been leading our moment for the last 21 years, will allow you to undermind us in unity? You need to correct your alibi bitich.

DENG DENG GURUK · Beginner Contributor

You better watch out dog.

Deng Deng Guruk