Give thanks to Heros

Bior Alier · Beginner Contributor

Give thanks to Heros

mayikaher · Major Contributor

Bior Alier,

Welcome my brother. I am also glad that you have mentioned Aweil contribution in South struggle which has been largely denigrated by Tinny Joker 1 and Amok Amok. Aweil has never been an enemy to Bor and it will never one. The problem here is that we are not happy with the trend John Garang is taking which sometimes inflames differences between tribes or sub-tribes. Bor might not be direct cause of John Garang wrong ambitions but the way most of you always react to his criticism triggers this inflammatory situation and perhaps embriols the entire Bor in the blame. But as you are a forward-looking guy, I expect you to send a strong message to Southern communities Bor included that, there must be a fair consensus to take away these inflammatory situations in the South. There is actually a resentment but this resentment can easily go away if we reach a compromise today or tomorrow. Aweil is looking forward to a better relation with her neighbors.

Thanks,

Mayik

Kuot Kuot · Major Contributor

Dear Bior Alier,

First of all welcome and thank you for joining Mading Aweil public board. Every new member on this board adds more salt to what we discuss here. Thank you too for your kind words, however what most of us actually wants to see is appreciation of our different efforts in the struggle. For peace and unity to prevail, southern Sudanese need to acknowledge that each and every single southerner regardless of his/her place of resident has contributed to the struggle in one way or another. The south-south conflict, is for the most part, caused by those in authority who more often than not try to alienate some southerners in the name of having not "contributed" much to the struggle or on the ground of being apologists of Arabs. If this mentality continues, we shall always live to fight each other and our very destiny which has caused us so much will simply be nothing but a dream.

You might have seen the views of many people on this board and many other boards regarding the leadership of John Garang, their (views) are not favourable enough, and this can all be blamed on Garang and his aide's policy of isolationism and/or alienation of some southerners (for self and political reaons). At least for now, they (leadership of SPLA/M) have seen that, that policy is not working and is not going to work, it is in fact a recipe for more chaos in the South. There is an urgent need for change if things are to go smooth.

Having said that, no community in the south, Aweil included, really wants to claim the credit of our collective struggle. What most of us would like to see is recognition of each other's effort and equality among all communities in the south. If we go by the present way of doing things, there will be no reason not to believe that some communities will simply get marginalized in the post-war south. That is one of many reasons why a lot of people are beginning to get concerned considering the history of our struggle. Once again welcome to the board.

Kuot Kuot.

Amok Amok · Beginner Contributor

welcome Alier Awa , loi de? we enjoy life here, it wonderfull place man.

Amok for nothing

Mabior Isaac · Intermediate Contributor

Bior welcom to Mading Aweil discussion Board, I am glad you and the rest of Bor community discover unwanted behaviors from few individuals. we are always one and we will be one forever, it is matter of few individuals among you guys sometime cause travel of division. you can correct me if I am wrong Garang leadership has a lot of doubt. many southerners are not please with Garang creating barriers and divisions among southerners. I think people like you in Bor are not happy with Garang leadership, if we Majority and other minority group stand for democracy. I think there is nothing to refrain unity in every corner in Southern Sudan. People like you in Bor community will help us to exhort democracy in our government as soon as the peace is sign. Bior I am very please with your words, I hope many people from Bor community will soon have the same feeling. Welcome and bring more to the light

You cannot accept changes in the government if you are insider

-- Edited by Mabior Isaac at 17:36, 2004-12-02

-- Edited by Mabior Isaac at 17:37, 2004-12-02

santino Ajith · Major Contributor

Hi Bior Alier,

I deeply welcome you to Mading Aweil public forum my brother and thank for your outstanding remarks. Mading Aweil website was soley established to promote greater interactions of Aweil community with her southern communities and to advocate for unity and better understanding amongst southerners. But the aim of this forum is sometime abused by few elements in this website which is not good at all. So I am glad that you pointed somethings out to all the participants.

Bior, people misunderstood the critics of our movement leadership that is why things tend to go astray. Garang is a leader for both communities in southern sudan and therefore should be corrected by all communities and depended by all communities. No one community can take the burden alone to depend his records. Few elements take him as Bor community member instead of a leader for all. As a forward looking guy, you hit the nail on the head and exhuast the topic. I am very thankful for your insightful ideas. please feel homely and keep visiting this excellent discussion board provide for Aweil community and southerners.

Applause

Santino Ajith

aluelpaker · Beginner Contributor

Hi Alier

First of all let me welcome you to the most reasonable and powerful discussion board.

What a gentleman, I wish Bor community has ten of your type brother. Amok and Ayuen will grap something from you. You are the real man keep up home boy.

Enjoy yourself brother.

Thanks-God bless

aluelpaker

didhan · Beginner Contributor

Hi ! Bior Alier,

You are highly welcome to mading Aweil website. feel free to share with us as a brother. Miss, mrs, mr Tinny joker has thrown a bomb on Aweil people, humilating us on the suffering the struggling for our land caused on us. Tinny joker is trying to cover his/her identity from Aweil people, but we will get him. he make no different from the common enemy of south. Arab may enslave a dinka from Aweil and the name will engulf you into the peocess as a dinka. we already know his identity and I would like you to give him your advise concerning the issue that he don,t understand why this board was created. it is clear that miss, mrs, mr. Tinny is related to Garang by kinship, but it make a lot of difference when coming to what one has achieve. Garang is our leader and we have to correct him.

How could you call yourself Garang supporter with a low standard of self-esteem.

Bior, once again welcome to board, but I advise you to rescue this young Tinny joker, he don't know which direction he is going.

Fidele Diing

Amok Amok · Beginner Contributor

diing what's up smart man, how are you doing in NY. fidele you know me very, very well. how studies so far????????? fideleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

amok for nothing

didhan · Beginner Contributor

Hi ! Amok,

you do said you know me, but I am a little confused with your name. what is your real name and where do you know me and how long ago brother.

But thank you very much for saying hello to me, the same to you too.

Fidele Diing.

Amok Amok · Beginner Contributor

Diing, you would me at home just less then a month. take care!

AMOK

Tinny Joker 1 · Beginner Contributor

Thank you Fidela Diing..In New York. You have been hunting for my identities.Here they are:> Name Ayuen Makuei Deng...... Location:> ATL. Come face me like a man budy....
You guys like to talk about Bor, Nuer crisis in 1991 and become annoyed for murrallen enslavement, rape, and killing. Why are you happy about others and get nervous about what happen to you?
Many of you are claiming that, Aweil protect Bor wemans, childrens and elderly in 1991...> If that is true, Than why are you let maramin still enslavement, rape, and kill people in Aweil?
Aweil is the major contributor of SPLA. May any one explain to me which task force unit exactly does Aweil contribute compare to 11,000 Korriom from Bor?
Aweil community is not in refugee camps, Than where are you? You are not at home and refugees camp.

Bior Alier. thank you for protending. I got you all....
Thank
Master Tinny Joker 1
Undercover Moderator.

N/B this will be my last post.

-- Edited by Tinny Joker 1 at 22:22, 2004-12-03

Mabior Isaac · Intermediate Contributor

Ayuen, Don't every forget and mistaken us seriously. you will face tough consquences on those pictures you post.

Kuot Kuot · Major Contributor

Please Tinny Joker,

Stop using non-existing threats to intimidate members and to disturb board’s peace. Your signature carries a lot of unfounded hypocrisy. Since when has Danasoft free signature been turned into a machine for collecting people’s data as your signature suggests? This is what your signature says, “Don’t be scared, only you and Tinny Joker1 view it”, the question is, what are you viewing with whoever you are addressing? Does it require any particular skill to sign up for Danasoft free signature? Brother, you can earn an enormous respect from people by going to school and learning something constructive as opposed to doing these sorts of nonsense. Be a good contributor and you will make many friends, desist from using such unfounded threats, they only make you a laughing stock of your audience.

Bior Alier,

Don’t worry about your privacy; no one is interfering with it. Tinny Joker1 is just being naïve, he is not collecting your personal details as his signature suggests. The signature he uses doesn’t collect people’s data, only you and you alone are able to see the details you see on his signature; it is just a free signature from Danasoft.com which anyone you included can sign up for. Internet has very strict laws that protect the privacy of the users. So whatever people say are just but nonsense. Take care.

Kuot Kuot.

Dave Mayen · Beginner Contributor

Hi Alier,

First & foremost I would like to welcome you feel at home tell us what is good and bad in this board.

Regarding Bor as a community there is slight different here when people are refere to Dictator John Garang majority mistake it that people are talking about Bor, which is tatotally wrong anyway Being new on this board has a lot of things to play henece therefore,monitor the debate for sometimes and you will probabaly figure out the difference between Garang and Bor as a community, otherwise Aher and Kuot Kuot have covered the key part.

Finally I would like to say hi to Fedaly Diing Dhan.

Dave Mayen.

didhan · Beginner Contributor

Joker,

Facing you like what man. do you means physically or mentally. I don't think you will win any of these from me , a man who knows where he belong with strong community background can not even waste a single minutes thinking of facing a man with no base. you make no senes to youself and to your community bor. Bor as a community has a self respect that we all know in south Sudan, but you are putting it into a boilling pot. let me aware you once that you are trespassing on this board. you are unethical creature. get away!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i am very sorry for my 2 minutes, I wasted replying this message.

Fidele Diing.

didhan · Beginner Contributor

Hi ! David Dut Mayen,

How are you doing My old classmate. I hope you are enjoying Australia. things are cool here in the empire state, New York. say hello to AWEILIANS living there with you. man it has been a long time, come visit us sometimes.

later.

Fidele Diing.

Kuot Kuot · Major Contributor

I will answer you tomorrow.

Kuot Kuot.

-- Edited by Kuot Kuot at 03:08, 2004-12-05

Uncleloi · Beginner Contributor

A wonderful new member, Bior Alier, what a joke folks! I don't think forging our indentities to be who we are not will not help the cause of free South Sudan.

Uncleloi!

Kuot Kuot · Major Contributor

Dear Tinny Joker1,

I was surprised to see you posting my former address on public board. I couldn’t believe that a person with all senses in tact would do that. Yes to the question that you asked, I recognized the address which you posted, it is my former address, I no longer live there now, and the software you used to trace my location cheated you, sadly.

You should not have been cheated that tracing someone’s location has anything to do with genii; it is simply an act of crime which can severely be punished by law. Personal address is considered as private domain and infringing on it without authorization from the owner is a very big crime. Only authorized bodies like FBI are allowed to do such searches and even if they do, they must do it at the confine of law. You did a crime by publishing my former address on public board.

I know you are naïve but what you don’t know is that, there are ten of thousands of soft wares out there which anyone, regardless of knowledge and skill, can use to trace any person’s address or contact at any time and place. When I found you have posted my former address on board, I was forced to search on you too. As I write this message, I know every bit about you; I know your present address and your personal telephone. Does knowing all these make me any intelligent? I guess not. I was in fact forced to post your present address on the board for about 10 minutes last night but then I realized it was stupid paying stupidity with stupidity so I decided to delet both your message and mine. That is why the readers of this message will wonder what I am talking about.

For those who are wondering what I am saying here, Tinny Joker published my old address on this board last night to show me and boartd members that he is dangerous, that message has been deleted because it was compromising with my personal security.

Tinny Joker,

Atlanta Georgia is not located on mars, I can legally do you more harm than you possibly think right there in Atlanta. Let me give you some hints as to why destroying you legally but not criminally is not a difficult thing for me. First I know your current address in its entirety including your personal phone. That alone is enough to crack you down in a matter of minutes. Besides, I know the company that provides you with internet. I don’t just know it by name, I have its full address and telephone. So contacting them regarding your criminal activities is not that hard: To prove to you that I am serious with what I am saying, I will provide a full address of your IP (Internet provider).

You Internet provider (IP) is BellSouth.net Inc. yes or no Tinny Joker? This is the company that provides you with internet (if you don’t know). The full address for this company is:

Organization: BellSouth.net Inc.

OrgID: BELL

Address: 575 Morosgo Drive

City: Atlanta

StateProv: GA

PostalCode: 30324

Country: US

I am withholding their telephone for my own reason. It is not difficult to take up your criminal matter with this company. I hope you read the rules of the internet when you ordered internet service from Bellsouth Inc. if you didn’t, then what you are doing is a breach of contract aand you are therefore in a dangerous position.

Another hint, do you have a personal website? The answer is a simple yes.For your info I know a full address and telephone # of your web hosting company. I can mean to close down your website and can also take up legal action against you through your hosting company. To prove to you that I know what I am talking about, the company that hosts your winoonline is: New Dream Network, LLC: Is this true or false? This company is headquartered in California. Here is its full address:

Orginazation: New Dream Network, LLC

OrgID: NDN

Address: 5610 S. Soto St.

City: Huntington Park

StateProv: CA

PostalCode: 90255

Country: US

I am withholding the telephone of this company too for the same reasons. Now the question is, do you recognize these companies? Have you realized now that it is not difficult for me and anyone else to deal with you legally?

Another hint: you registered your awinoonline with the New Dream Network LLC on the 2th of November 2003 and is expiring on the 22nd of September 2005.

Do you recognize these details Tinny Joker1? Is it beginning to dawn on you that don't live on mars and that you are not any genius?

Tinny Joker, I know the software you used to trace my old address, I tried a couple of softwares to trace my own address and telephone with a view to determining the kind of software you used which gave you my old address and one of them was able to give me my old address and not the present one. I then knew that it is what you used. So don’t cheat your self that you have any magic that you can used to trace people's location, other people know them too. But such softwares are useless.

Finally I want to leave you with a word of warning: stop publishing unauthorized materials esp. things pertaining to personal matters, that path is taking you to hell. I can personally destroy you where you live without having to come down to Atlanta Georgia, get my words. As I told you before, I now have you personal details that is your current address and your own telephone (unless you change it sometimes soon). I will monitor your activities here on board. Tinny Joker1, the world is smaller than you tend to think.

Kuot Kuot.

-- Edited by Kuot Kuot at 22:49, 2004-12-05

Biar Yaak · Beginner Contributor

Kuot Kuot and Tiny Joker,

What are you guys doing parading your personal and private infront of the entire World? Would you please find a less crude way of solving your differences?

Mabior Isaac · Intermediate Contributor

Garang Kout, there is no point to warn Ayuen, he should deserve this as punishment for his crime.

Kuot Kuot · Major Contributor

Biar Yak,

I understand what you mean, what is going on here is entirely against the objective of this board. But what the so called Tinny Joker1 did to me was a complete breach of my personal security. He posted my former address right here on this board for many hours until late last night when I found it. I don't know if this fellow never heard of American civil liberties, this is one of them, unless entirely appropriate, no one is allowed to disclose personal address of someone esle over the media because that compromises with that person's security. After posting that address, he bragged of how intelligent he is. I simply wonder if Tinny Joker1 has truly made many academic acheivements than me. And even if he acheived more than me, he has no reason whatsoever to enterfere with my private domain. Tinny Joker1 will from now on know that an end to his criminal activities, if that is what he has been doing, could be insight.

Kuot Kuot.

-- Edited by Kuot Kuot at 22:45, 2004-12-05

mayikaher · Major Contributor

Biar Yaak,

Thanks for your advice. I think Kuot Kuot from this step on will never disclose Tinner Joker 1 private information to the public, especially the ones Kuot Kuot still withholding.

Moreover, it is wrong to assume that you know more than anybody simply because you illegally break into other people private domains. It is a criminal behavior that take somebody to the jail for years and that is why it is avoided.

Makuac · Beginner Contributor

What?