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RE: can we support our girls?


Dear all,


I am deeply fascinated by compelling arguments put forward by the discussants  on their attempts to answer the question "Can we support our girls?". The answer to this question would outrightly be yes if the issue of resettlement is removed from the equation. Those of us here are in "Western world" could give a vivid testimony on how unsuitable it is for our brothers and sisters back at home to pin their hopes on moving over to the west. If what is at stake is education, there is likelihood that both levels of governments in the Sudan will channel considerable portion of their resources to capacity development, something which our sisters (gender quotas in mind) in particular, especially those who have basic literacy could benefit in significantly.


The fundament of my argument is neither on conservatism nor feminism, but on grim realities of the western world which welcomes people through the dispossession of their esteem. We are all humans, and our humanity is nutured by the reciprocal sense of self-worth, something no emigrant could boast about,with the exception of few who had to work extra hard to propel themselves to the middle echelon power. Our sisters should seek avenues at home and not think of resettlement as the solution. It can guarantee certain rights and freedom, but lurking behind those universal concepts is frustration that courts self-destruction.


Albino Madut Majok


 



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Sorry mr. Kuot and the rest.

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Dear board members,


This is really a good topic. The points all of you raised are facinating, I read until my eyes were sore. I agree with those who say that resettlement is not an answer for the problems girls are facing in the camps. The matter should be taken up by government of southern Sudan and Dinka community. At this time, girls dont longer belong to kitchen, they must start going to school together with boys. We must take example from Rwanda where half of the MPs are women. That is really encouraging, we Dinka people should stop our stereotype that girls are ineffective because things have changed. I will add more later, I am busy now.


Uncle Dengdit.



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Dear Fidele,
Thanks for your concrete answers and question. I think you have gotten me wrong, in my arguement. My arguement doesn't mean anything to do with femenism or activism, and it was not even basing on immigration of girls to western countries, it was to pinpoint the truth and the facts. That women rights and claims should be granted to them. I wouldn't have sat back and watch you denying them what they really deserve an extend of commanding people not to support them. (don't support these girls). I though you would be a man enough to endure challeges and accept the realities. Girls or women are full human, they need respect and understanding in all aspects of life.

Coming back to the point of marriage, I never persuaded you to get married to any girl who is not of you taste. What you need to understand is, marriage base on three factors or more; love, trust, giving each other rights, respect, and understanding them. It doesn't really matter where you get a wife from, you can get marry anywhere, whether in Africa, North America, Australia, Sodom or Gomorah.

Thanks for the Book but i don't need it now. My intention was not to attack anybody but let people understand that women should be treated equally as men.


Garang and Kijana Dhor,
your questions have been answered by Kuot Kuot, all he said is perfect and brilliant.

Ahok Atem

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Ahok Atem,Aluel, and Atong,


I believe that, on the eve of a new millennium, it is time to break your silence, and rise your voice, on the behalf of Southern Sudanese women around the world. it is my opinin we (men) should support our grils(women) in the homes, on the jobs,in their educations, as mothers, wives, sisters, daugthers, and leadership.


However, dfifferent we may be, there is far more that unites us than that divides us.  we (men) could bring new dignity and respect to women and grils in Southern Sudan, andall over the world.


best wishes


Garang Dhieu



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Deal all,


 


Thank all for your brilliant and essential discussion of the topic up to point of no doubt, even though some forks screw up from argument. We better shouldn’t finger point to someone when conferring extensive topic that engross socials and cultures activities to annulled misapprehension forks. Otherwise you guys are magnificent in your entire squabble toward the topic.


 


Back to the article, I have personally sustain those girls on their campaign to enhance the freedom the deserve so that don’t put blameworthiness on men, since a lot of sisters claim they have been denied freedom or subjugate by men which is somewhat factual in others part such as freedom of speech.


 


But sisters, according to my four years experience in USA; I think/ deem women/girls are habitually free in Africa than in the western world. For instance, for my good ten years in kakuma/Kenya I never hear or perceive any single woman or girl murder by men, but today four year in Chicago, I never go single day without hear, see in TV, and read in news paper that woman is exterminate or rape or sexual assault on their daily activities, which all new word as far as South Sudan’s culture is concern. Women/girls are handled with care in Africa than western world. The main issue is about dowry, parents raise girls with the aim of getting something out them, which is foremost reason why girls are marriage in early age. They young girls value and cost more prices than old girl (age of 20-30 are consider old) they cost low price. Therefore parents who care about dowry will essentially vigor his/her daughter to get marriage to factual low price. The alternative is we should discourage the idea of dowry and allow the girls to choose when they should be ready to make family.


 


Concerning girl education, I think dhor and kuot kuot have point it out undoubtedly. So I will hold my comment for now.


 


Peace,


 


Awachdit anei



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Hi Ahok Atem!


Thank you indeed for  being  a die hard fan of femine rights. I really  really like that! I am  so proud of you .  In contrast, I guess you might have misinterpreted me. Iam a womaniser for that case. I love  you , sisters, in bottom of my heart and  direly  support your interests and ideals. I did  not mean to hurt your feelings.What I was trying to discredit was erroneous explanation of the  causes of  fled of the lost boys to refugee camps -various- and resettlement by a journalist or whatever name given to article producer.To understand it better , go back to my edited message and meticulously read it . Iam sure you will understand it better.For your knowledge, we the lostboys    and  girls  in US have what so called Reunion every august of each year ,starting   in  2002 upto date. The first people  to ask the questions of girls resetttlement were boys.We ,boys did that because we love salt.We still have straight forwarders interests not other way arounds interests.Ya know wa am mean do n,t ya?


To reiterate what other folks or guys have said,  I would like to simply correct  you wrong.Iam about to tell you that you messed up with different subjects such as claiment of girl status as lost ones, protection and resettlement. To chop it,  I am going to pick up, the topic, Protection. Protection and equal partaking   in any aspects of life   should have been mentioned by other girls , but not you.The reason being that back in the day in Kenya, Kakuma, we had formed Youth body in which Monee and you were leaders or secretaries  during the rule of ,  Adong-loc, to remind you.Hence, it is so futile for understanding and open minded Aweil girl of your likes   to support speculations like that article.Another reason, you should have four kids by now if girls' interests and ideals were not sheilded.Prove me wrong or not, you know it,Cathy.Lastly, no girl could have made it  to the land of resettlement after nine years at Kukama refugee camp.


Once again, for straight forward rationale,we love  more lostgirls resettlement.Know one dislikes salt.More girls,  means   more company  which equals more attentive of us 'boys', at school.


Anyway, the bottom line is , we awiel folks need not rush ,to  simply address  any fire-like  topic whose its smoke can horribly  suffocate  the entire world. For example, factors of resettlement and slavery to mention few. Let us be very careful and consistent.Our web is like "golic within luak." That is just my opinion.


Cheer!!


Tino.


 


 



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Tino,
Thanks for raising your voice after long silence, actually you might think i have messed you everything because am a woman. But the reality is you guys have hated the article simply because it had issues which were raised by girls. You were right to say that, you never meant to be against girls' claim for protection but whatever the thing that brother Fidele wrote generalised your ideas as being against girls too.

Anyway am running out of time since i have mid term exams which i guess you guys too have. I will be back for your questions somtime this weekend.

Have a blessed week .
Ahok


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It seem like there is unfinished business between you and me.


But I was trying to point out that there soon be a cultural genocide.


Fidele



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What are you talking about Fidele?????????????????????????????????????????????????
Cultural genocide! what about that. Who is gonna do it?


Come down bro.

Ahok

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