you can know God from his ceations

johnmayoul · Beginner Contributor

you can know God from his ceations

Penhdit · Beginner Contributor

Hi Mayol,

You have been teaching all along but, I fail to understand what is your preaching basically about.We all know Almighty God and we belong to different denominations of christianity.Othodox, episcapol, methodist and so on, examply.

If you do not belong to the section of this board's , quite then brother.

Your version of the bible is so complex to grasp. Drill your theology insight some where else or back home or something,in case you are "jal oliec."

Your understanding would be highly appreciated.

Thanks,

Tino.

acid anei · Intermediate Contributor

hi mayuol,

what color is God? is it white like jesus christ? if white, why is it white not black? if God and his sants and angels are white then why you call it your God since you are black? why you name "john"? does jesus has christain name?

peace,

awach anei

Wangkec · Beginner Contributor

Thanks to you guys who responded to "Johnny."

It is what I have been talking about; hence, in his previous post which I did respond to, I asked him about why he is so obssessed to foreign "messenger", Jesus. He never replied and even no other person who came to respond to it too.

What Mr. John reveals is a sign of cultural, religious and mental colonialization. We should be aware of this. God is God, no matter what colour he has.......but God has sent every nation a messenger/prophet to speak to his people in their own tongue/language. This is a time to revive our lost, degraded culture, reliogion, etc. Let's not believe what white man say.

Question of the day! why did whiteman killed our prophets?

May Ngundeng bless you all!

Wangkech

Mabior Isaac · Intermediate Contributor

Wengkech, you are fondering with so many ideas. I did not get you clearly may you please repeat your self one more time so that people like me can understand your point. with that I will give you feed back base on understanding of your argument, have good day dude.

santino · Beginner Contributor

Hello Mayuol,smile

You must be a very good believer (or pastor at best) that you even want to turn this Board into a forum for Christian crusades! Unfortunately, some of us, like myseslf, are not Christians.

But all the same, carry on.You might obtain a sizeable following here.

"God bless you."

Santino M.Dau Deng.

johnmayoul · Beginner Contributor

May blessing from Almighty God be with you.

acid anei · Intermediate Contributor

RE: you can know God from his ceations

didhan · Beginner Contributor

Bro. Awach,

Who should we follow now or believe in , Ngundeng and Ariath or Jesus the son of God?

Fidele Diing.

santino Ajith · Major Contributor

Awach anei

If you are for God, then you should be for Christ because Christ is the son of God.

Thanks

Santino Ajith

Wangkec · Beginner Contributor

Acid Anei,

Good question. Ariath Makuei and Ngundeng are both our prophets whom we can follow rather Jesus. Second, our (African) prophets were not killed becoz of unholy prophecies as whiteman claimed but it was/is way to eradicate our revered values, traditions, cultures, religion, customs or other things which important to humankinds. thus we should follow their own religion, cultures, values, etc., as the way Mr. Manyuol does plus others. Colonization comes in different forms and different ways. The word "Animism (ist)" need to be condemned.....As of today, we are not any longer being colonization directly (i.e, overt power control and obliged to do things that we could not do otherwise), mental, cultural and religious colonization is pervasive, covert, and prevalent. For example, here in the West in public or private schools/colleges/universities text books and other literatures, African philosophers, scientists, politicians, scholars, academic, you name it, are not written or being talked about in class rooms or wherever. Only few like Mandela, MLK, or sometimes Malcom X in rare occasions--maybe by those (white) filled with human passion.

Brothers,

Africa is the mother of civilization, science, wisdom and knowledge. Let's not mind fetter by Whiteman bias. (I can refer you to this web if you never got a chance to visit it, it you will learn Africans and our African-American brothers' contribution in all sorts of human science and arts which are not revealed or suppressed by whiteman.) Here it is: www.swagga.com or you can use search engine google and type the word "Afrocentric."

Santino Ajith,

Who say "Jesus" is a son of God? White man, right? Forget it! There are lots of philosophical questions which I could ask if you can have a well-founded prove of that. Oh, before that, is the mention of a phrase "Bless is to a person who believe in me without seeing me" in that bible that blind you to see the real truth. What is reality? I know what you have in you is "faith" towards Jesus, and faith is unquestionable and testable, this is tie you vision not to see beyond the man-made bible which was written by wise individuals?

Time out! I will be right back.

Let both Ngundeng and Ariath be with! Oh, I forgot, I have no idea about Ariath, I am curious to know about him too. Help me?

-- Edited by Wangkec at 21:32, 2005-03-02

acid anei · Intermediate Contributor

Dear all

When a last time you know Jesus was is son God? I think Jesus has undergone the same process like any child in the world. He was bear in the womb for nine and grows continually like any human. Therefore, if Jesus is son God then everyone is son God.

fidele, we better follow ariath makuei bro. if we don't belief in makueidit that have done some miracles our fathers witness, then why do we belief in Jesus that we don't know. I am regret of all time I waste to acquire Christianity. I have Christian name, but I stop using them period!

Wangkec,

In short, ariath makuei is imperative prophet in aweil. He has prophecies current war (pany a rak mac). He also walks on water. He prays so that rain can rain in the middle of summary. He change water to milk and he went underneath water for couple days and come out with dry flours in water. Run out time, we will continue.....

Awach anei

Jackson anei · Beginner Contributor

dear didhan,
who should we follow now or believe in, Ngundeng and Ariath makuei or Jesus the son of God? Iam surely believe we should Jesus? because he is a son of God. but, Question is do you believe jesus he a whiteman? how or what the evidences show us that jesus he a whiteman? I believe that in your church wre you get pray, there is a lot picture of jesus are a whiteman? and that time nobody have knowledge to take the jesus pictures with camera,to tell us today jesus was black or white?

thank you

Jackson anei

Nemr · Beginner Contributor

Dear All,

iam just want to leap in to help you with this topic.Brothers and sisters if we are realy understand the beginning of the history of Jesus the one who claimed to be son of God .what i know Jesus is not son of God in my view . Jesus is illegimate son .why?because marry was engaged to Joseph and before Joseph joint her to his house she got pregnant from unknown one .how do you called him son of God ?

second .bible claimed that prohpets were sent to world to redeem sinners people , if that is right .then we are not sinners Africa in General. because no one of prohpets came to tell us words of God or God is not care about Afirca people .all prohpets born in middleast so middleast people are a sinners peolpe .therefore let's stop teacahing lie to people.tell us about Ariathdit and longer Jell or ngundang .and stop confusing us with Jesus son of white one.

Kuach Lochdit

Kuot Kuot · Major Contributor

Kuach,

The quote below is really funny dude, if prophets were sent to save sinners, then there are no sinners in Africa since they were not sent any prophet, it makes sense though.

Folks, you made most of us laugh the hell out of us, but I belief you guys have a point in what you are saying. I don't know if any of you read "Cambridge by Carl Philips" I just read it a few weeks ago for my literature class. We had great discussion in class trying to analyse this book (Cambridge) and one of many themes was none other than this same topic: religion (christianity). It was a great discussion, it was like none of the students including prof. was a religious person. Philips has fully portrayed religion as a tool of colonialism. Isn't it a big lie that God was brought to Africa by white colonialists? we had already had our own God. It is ok to say that Jesus is a prophet and so is Ngundeng and Ariath Makuei. The problem is, white man doesn't want to recognize prophet from dark continent of Africa which is unacceptable. Any way, continue with your funny discussion.

Wangec,

You truly are anti-white man's hypocrisy buddy, I visited the website that you provided and I was amazed. It is a true source of valueable information, Africans have got to fight for their identity man otherwise white folks will always want to keep us in darknesss by burrying the truth about us as distinct peoples. You have seen here in the West where you hardly hear about African scholars in higher institutions of learn and this creates this false opinion that Africans are ineffective, they can't have distinguish scholars as white men do. It is sad. Colonialism comes in many forms, it can be through ideology such as religious indoctrination in order to mask our eyes from seeing truth. Any way I have got to go.

KK

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Originally posted by: Nemr
"Dear All, iam just want to leap in to help you with this topic.Brothers and sisters if we are realy understand the beginning of the history of Jesus the one who claimed to be son of God .what i know Jesus is not son of God in my view . Jesus is illegimate son .why?because marry was engaged to Joseph and before Joseph joint her to his house she got pregnant from unknown one .how do you called him son of God ? second .bible claimed that prohpets were sent to world to redeem sinners people , if that is right .then we are not sinners Africa in General. because no one of prohpets came to tell us words of God or God is not care about Afirca people .all prohpets born in middleast so middleast people are a sinners peolpe .therefore let's stop teacahing lie to people.tell us about Ariathdit and longer Jell or ngundang .and stop confusing us with Jesus son of white one. Kuach Lochdit"

-- Edited by Kuot Kuot at 23:44, 2005-03-03

didhan · Beginner Contributor

quote: Mr. Jackson,

Thank for quoting my question concerning the black and white prophets. My question was a point of clarifiction from brother Awach Anei and I believe he answered it eventhough the explanation was in less details. I am not persuading and anyone to follow Jesus nor responsible to anyone's negative feelings toward white prophet as most of you put it. pastorhood is one of the professional I never thought to persue as part of my career, and therefore I am not much concern or worry about the rejection of Jesus's prophecy.

Any way my names are Fidele Diing Dhan not Didhan-that is signature.

Peace!

Fidele Diing

Originally posted by: Jackson anei
" dear didhan, who should we follow now or believe in, Ngundeng and Ariath makuei or Jesus the son of God? Iam surely believe we should Jesus? because he is a son of God. but, Question is do you believe jesus he a whiteman? how or what the evidences show us that jesus he a whiteman? I believe that in your church wre you get pray, there is a lot picture of jesus are a whiteman? and that time nobody have knowledge to take the jesus pictures with camera,to tell us today jesus was black or white? thank you Jackson anei"

Jackson anei · Beginner Contributor

dear mr, Fidele,

thank too, mr, Fidele Diing, I not real sure the difference between your name and your signature? if you don,t like your signature other people can called by that signature, why you put them on the website? anyway I was beliefe they are still your name by anyway, so I can call you like that,is not my mistake.

otherwise your question was claerly to me, second thing I did say you worry to rejection of jesus,s prophecy. let me tell you this, Iam not one can rejected jesus christ in my life time, I was just asked you, jesus he a whiteman? for your question not clearly to me,I didn,t know, you only ask authority, otherwise it was just joyful between us, to find out our Idea. I did not mean nothing to you.